Or some people even say " B-T-M" without saying the word.

或者有些人甚至不说这个词就说“B-T-M” 。

So I still use motivational interviewing, C B T, a lot of the other stuff, but but I just don't like being in an office very much and I don't think it's good for other people necessarily either.

所以我仍然使用动机性面试，CBT和其他很多东西， 但我只是不太喜欢在办公室里， 我认为这对其他人也不一定有好处。