JEFF MACKIE-MASON: Sci-Hub is breaking the law by distributing material that they don't have the legal right to distribute.

JEFF MACKIE-MASON：SCI-Hub分发他们没有合法权利分发的材料是违法的。

JEFF MACKIE-MASON: Meaning validated by scholars who are experts in the subject matter that the article is about.

JEFF MACKIE-MASON：本文所涉及主题的专家学者已验证其含义。

JEFF MACKIE-MASON: Very simply, what we want—and we've succeeded with these agreements—is we pay the publisher to publish articles written by University of California authors.

JEFF MACKIE-MASON：很简单，我们想要的——我们已经成功地达成了这些协议——就是我们付钱给出版商，让他们发表加州大学作者撰写的文章。

JEFF MACKIE-MASON: I—I would say to people, look, the fact that money is going to the publishers is not intrinsically a bad thing, because otherwise they wouldn't publish.

杰夫·麦基-梅森：我——我会对人们说，看，钱流向出版商这一事实本质上并不是一件坏事，因为否则他们就不会出版。

JEFF MACKIE-MASON: And if Harvard pays to publish Harvard articles, if the University of Munich pays to publish University of Munich articles, if everybody does that then there's no charge to read anything.

JEFF MACKIE-MASON：如果哈佛花钱发表哈佛的文章，如果慕尼黑大学付钱发表慕尼黑大学的文章，如果每个人都这样做，那么阅读任何东西都不收取任何费用。

JEFF MACKIE-MASON: Pay them enough to be in business and get a rate of return, but then once we've paid them to publish, the deal is that they make it available for free online.

JEFF MACKIE-MASON：付给他们足够的钱来做生意并获得回报率，但是一旦我们付钱给他们出版，交易就是他们在网上免费提供。