Pneuma founder Damion Cooper says it took him more than 4 years to learn this lesson.

Pneuma的创始人达明·库珀称，他花了四年多的时间才学到了这个教训。

Pneuma is also engaging these boys, young and old, in serious discussions about how they can change their community for the better.

Pneuma也鼓励孩子们不管年龄大小，都参与到严肃的讨论中去，共同探讨如何改变自己的社区，让它朝着更好的方向发展。