And all of these had to build everything from scratch, so… AS: I gather your… JC: … there was very little money and so I was basically cobbling together old junk or scrap from the UC Physics department.

所有这些都必须从头开始构建所有东西，所以… … AS：我收集到你的… … JC：… … 钱很少，所以我基本上是在拼凑加州大学物理系的旧垃圾或废料。