I mean even people like Nelson Mandela — I mean they were striving to work for those changes nonviolently, and it was 1960 that changed them.

我的意思是，即使是像纳尔逊·曼德拉这样的人——我的意思是，他们正努力以非暴力的方式争取这些改变，而正是 1960 年改变了他们。