That voice belongs to John Irving.

那是约翰·欧文的声音。

John Irving's novels are always long, and his stories famously complicated.

约翰·欧文的小说总是很长，他的故事以复杂著称。

ALICE WINKLER: Including in the novel John Irving had just published when he sat down for this conversation.

包括约翰·欧文刚出版的小说，当时他坐下来开始了这次谈话。

The interviewer was journalist Irv Drasnin, who started the conversation by asking John Irving to talk about his childhood in Exeter, New Hampshire.

采访者是记者埃夫·达拉斯宁，他首先请约翰·欧文谈谈他在新罕布什尔州埃克塞特的童年。

Before we return to the story of John Irving's approach to writing stories end-first, I need to say, " This is What It Takes from the Academy of Achievement. I'm Alice Winkler."

在我们回到约翰·欧文（由尾至头）写故事的方法之前，我想说，“这里是出品于成就学会的 What It Takes。我是爱丽丝·温克勒。

It's a refrain, repeated several times in the novel, a technique John Irving is very fond of and compares to the repetitions you find in any long piece of music, in an opera or a soundtrack.

这是迭句，在小说中重复了几次，这是约翰·欧文非常喜欢用的一种技巧，可以和你在任何一首长音乐、歌剧或原声带中找到的重复节奏相媲美。

So I'm going to switch gears here and move away from how John Irving writes his novels, to talk about what went into making him the writer that he is, the person that he is.

所以我要转换一下话题，了解约翰·欧文写小说的方式告一段落，谈谈是什么让他成为现在这样的作家，成为现在这样的人。