Maybe that's a stock, maybe that's an index bond, to gain higher returns.

也许是股票，也许是指数债券，从而获得更高的回报。

At the end of the first quarter of 2022, firms in the Bloomberg bond index had ebitda equal to 15.4 times their interest payments, compared with 11.5 times in 2018.

2022 年第一季度末，彭博债券指数公司的 Ebitda 等于其利息支付的 15. 4 倍，而 2018 年为 11. 5 倍。