True thusness is without defiling thought; it cannot be known through conception and thought.

真的“如是”是无偏颇的思想；是无法以思想、观念来颖悟的。

True thusness is the substance of thought and thought is t he function of true thusness. To think of thusness, to define it in thought is to defile it.

真“如是”是思想的物质，而思想是真“如是”的机构，思及“如是”，要固定义它犹如亵渎它。