Bred Haves, senior counsel of the group of the alliance defending freedom and backs for ruling.

该组织的高级律师布莱德·海夫斯为自由辩护，并支持这项裁决。

And so that was Jeffrey Ventrella, who's a senior counsel and senior vice president of academic affairs and training at the Alliance Defending Freedom.

这就是杰弗里·文特雷拉（Jeffrey Ventrella），他是捍卫自由联盟的高级顾问兼学术事务和培训高级副总裁。

So you got access to some leaked recordings, and one of them is a talk given by Jeffrey Ventrella, who's a senior counsel and senior vice president of academic affairs and training at the ADF.

因此，您可以获得一些泄露的录音，其中之一是杰弗里·文特雷拉 (Jeffrey Ventrella) 的演讲，他是 ADF 的高级顾问兼学术事务和培训高级副总裁。