But I do think that there are ways in which some of these radical ideas do percolate down through companies and even come into conventional companies and are picked up as a sort of fashion that eventually reaches the high street.

但我确实认为， 有些激进的想法确实会通过一些方式渗透到公司中， 甚至进入传统公司， 并被视为一种最终到达商业街的时尚。