But a more ambitious approach, and one which I think would have more chance of success, would be to alter how they're running things - the management layers and the processes.

但是更有野心，也是我认为最可能成功的做法是改变运营方式，管理层和加工流程。

And as I once wrote, you know, there is a danger there because as soon as you take out managers, you're essentially saying that the people above that middle management layer have to have more direct reports.

正如我曾经写过的那样， 你知道，那里存在危险， 因为一旦你撤掉经理，你实际上是在说中层管理层以上的人必须有更多的直接下属。