ALICE WINKLER: I want to pause here for a moment to give you a little background on Louis Leakey.

我想在这里暂停一下，给大家介绍一下路易斯·李基的背景知识。

Louis Leakey, a palaeontologist and Ms Goodall's mentor, mused: " Now we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as human."

担任古道尔导师的古生物学家路易斯·利基若有所思地说：“现在我们必须重新定义工具，重新定义人类，否则就要承认黑猩猩是人类。”

She did have to start that boring secretarial job in Nairobi, but luckily, it didn't last long because soon enough, she heard about the famous paleoanthropologist working nearby, Louis Leakey.

她不得不在内罗毕开始那份无聊的文秘工作，但幸运的是，这份工作没持续多久，因为很快，她就听说了在附近工作的著名古人类学家路易斯·李基。

And so, it was after Louis Leakey got my telegram that he sent one back, saying, " We shall now have to redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as humans."

因此，在路易斯·李基收到我的电报后，他回了一封电报，说：“我们现在必须重新定义工具，重新定义人类，或者接受黑猩猩是人类。”

And it was after I'd been collecting information in this way for about 18 months that I got this letter from Louis Leakey saying that he wouldn't always be around.

在我以这种方式收集信息大约18个月后，我收到了路易斯·李基的这封信，他说他不会永远在这里。

But in the beginning, for Louis Leakey's vision to succeed, he was either going to have to head into the forest himself or convince someone that Jane Goodall was up to the job.

但在一开始，路易斯·李基的愿景要想成功，他要么自己去森林里，要么说服别人珍妮·古道尔能胜任这项工作。

Louis Leakey, a palaeontologist and Ms Goodall's mentor, mused: " Now we must redefine tool, redefine man, or accept chimpanzees as human." Since then the distinction between animals and humans has become increasingly nuanced.

古生物学家、古道尔女士的导师路易斯·利基 (Louis Leakey) 沉思道：“现在我们必须重新定义工具，重新定义人， 或者接受黑猩猩是人。 ” 从那时起，动物和人类之间的区别变得越来越微妙。