Diabetes is not and never was caused by eating a high carbohydrate diet and it's not caused by eating sugar.

糖尿病不是、也从来不是由高碳水饮食引起的，也不是由吃糖引起的。

They talked about high carbohydrate foods.

他们谈论高碳水化合物食物。

And four studies actually showed better health outcomes with carbohydrate reduction, particularly high glycemic carbohydrates which would be the ones that raise insulin the most.

而另外四项研究表明，减少碳水化合物摄入实际上更有益于健康，尤其是减少那些升糖指数高的碳水化合物，这些碳水化合物刺激人体分泌的胰岛素最多。