And every month, the establishment survey interviews about 130,000 employers.

每个月，机构调查都会采访约 130,000 名雇主。

But when it came to the establishment survey, government agencies reported these workers did have jobs.

但是，当涉及到建立调查，政府机构报告说，这些工人确实有工作。

So, you're really hard-pressed to find the evidence of the shutdown in the establishment survey.

所以，在机构调查中，你很难找到关闭的证据。

How could both happen? Well, first, unemployment is based on a survey of households, the jobs number, on a separate sample of employers, the so- called establishment survey.

两者怎么会发生？首先，失业是基于对家庭、工作数量的调查，根据雇主的单独抽样调查，即所谓的机构调查。