Or we might call it a mac for short.

或者我们可以简称它为 mac。

Oh my gosh, have you had a mac and cheese pie?

哦，我的天哪，你吃过通心粉和奶酪派吗？

It starts with a white sauce that we turn into a cheese sauce and then we'll turn it into a mac and cheese and basically, no recipe.

首先是白汁，然后我们把它做成芝士酱，然后我们把它做成芝士通心粉，基本上没有食谱。

To turn it into a mac and cheese, I've just got pasta which we've just boiled, still slightly al dente 'cause it is gonna go through the oven. And stir that in.

为了把它做成芝士通心粉，我准备了刚煮好的意大利面，仍然有一点嚼劲，因为它还要进烤箱。搅拌一下。